Kevin Bond on MSNBC-KMIR6

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Kevin Bond from Springfield in the USA asked MSNBC-KMIR6 to investigate electronic harassment. English is my third language. Sometimes I don’t understand it well.

Gino Lamont Gino Lamont: Hundreds of people in the valley say they’re hearing voices in their heads. Those voices are being transmitted by microwave or ... other methods.

Thalia Hayden Thalia Hayden: Well, several viewers asked us to investigate what they call electronic harassment. KMIR6’s Angela Monroe joins us now with what she’s discovered. Angela.

Angela Monroe Angela Monroe: Electronic harassment, synthetic telepathy, voice to skull technology. Chances are you haven’t heard of these terms, but after searching the internet I found dozens of websites dedicated to the phenomenon and several Valley residents who say they’re victims.

Randall Ringger Randall Ringger: How much more can you invade me than to go into my brain?

Kevin Bond Kevin Bond: It sounds like somebody else is reading the book, only it’s thoughts.

Bob Stansfield Bob Stansfield: We’re not having a group hallucination. This is actually something that’s happening.

Angela Monroe Angela Monroe: These men all live in the area, didn’t know each other before the voices started and say someone is playing mind games with them.

Bob Stansfield Bob Stansfield: Mostly it’s a lot of derogatory comments about whatever you’re thinking about.

Voices which comment on what you think
is considered typical of schizophrenia.
So if you have voices which comment on what you think
then you better don’t tell anyone
what the voices say.

Randall Ringger Randall Ringger: The only time I ever had a whole sentence is that “this is not about you,” which just frosted me. If it’s not about me, what the hell am I going through all this for?

Angela Monroe Angela Monroe: Kevin Bond says that he used to have a normal life.

Kevin Bond Kevin Bond: I was living in San Diego area. I was working for a federal judge and I noticed that I was being followed by a whole bunch of people.

The subject shifts to gang stalking.
He experienced first gang stalking, then electronic harassment.

Angela Monroe Angela Monroe: According to the website what Bond has described is called gang stalking. He moved to Palm Springs to escape.

Kevin Bond Kevin Bond: I started hearing voices and what I call voice to skull, Microwave hearing.

Angela Monroe Angela Monroe: Bob Stansfield says his experience was similar and started a decade ago.

Bob Stansfield Bob Stansfield: They were active in following me around here and I started hearing the voices a little bit after the vehicular stalking.

He experienced first gang stalking, then electronic harassment.

Angela Monroe Angela Monroe: Randall Ringer says the voices started when he was undergoing chemotherapy.

Randall Ringger Randall Ringger: The first thing that was said was “Randall Ringger.” And I sat up straight and I went into the bathroom and I looked into the mirror, looked myself in the eyes and I said: “Did that really happen?”

Angela Monroe Angela Monroe: Bond says he’s found more than 300 victims locally and he’s tracking others across the state through billboards. In Johnson Valley a freedom house just opened to help people who believe they’re being targeted.

Now they introduce FFCHS.
They should have said:
"We participate only in the program if FFCHS is excluded."

Derrick Robinson Derrick Robinson: To many of you who find yourselves the object of covert harassment: that there is hope and that you are not alone, and that we are striving to find legislation and we are working towards freedom for all.

They focus on belonging to a group.
For many victims this is the first thing that they want.

Angela Monroe Angela Monroe: Derrick Robinson leads the national group called freedom from covert harassment and surveillance. He says he knows who’s playing mind games.

Derrick Robinson Derrick Robinson: Rogue government officials that are sponsoring this, also corrupt business officials and private citizens.

Too vague.
Let’s call them the Mafia.

Angela Monroe Angela Monroe: And he also told us how.

Derrick Robinson Derrick Robinson: Most of it is delivered by microwave. And I believe it’s satellite delivered, whether someone is on a remote location using a laptop or next door using a desktop.

He claims that the people next door
would use a satellite
to beam at you: laughable.

Angela Monroe Angela Monroe: Bond says neurotransmitter chips that run of body electricity have been inserted into some people.

Kevin Bond Kevin Bond: And they assign cell phone numbers to them. The cell phone numbers are then run through a computer and the computer translates your thoughts. This crime has been available to the military for 60 years.

That’s rubbish.
It’s unfortunate,
because now they will profit from it.

Angela Monroe Angela Monroe: We sat down with local psychiatrist Dr. Alan Drucker to get his professional opinion.

Alan Drucker Dr. Alan Drucker: There’s no scientific evidence, there’s no objective evidence to show that what they believe to be happening is factually true.

This is a mistake in logic.
One mistake is used to invalidate all claims.

Angela Monroe Angela Monroe: So what does the doctor believe is behind the voices?

Alan Drucker Dr. Alan Drucker: Information that I found [...] in these websites really confirms, is consistent with what I see delusional disorder.

Some of it will be delusional.
But again, he generalizes.

Angela Monroe Angela Monroe: But these men disagree.

Bob Stansfield Bob Stansfield: I’ve been to a psychiatrist and they gave me anti-schizophrenia medication and it did absolutely nothing whatsoever.

That’s gold.

Angela Monroe Angela Monroe: However Dr. Drucker says delusional disorder has no real medical treatment and is believed to start of disrupted dopamine pathways in the brain.

Psychiatry has never cured anything.

Alan Drucker Dr. Alan Drucker: These pathways start to fire or get triggered in the absence of actual stimulation of a person actually speaking or the radio being on etc.

This is not an answer.
It’s a reformulation of the problem.
There’s no doctor who can explain
why someone would hear voices.

Angela Monroe Angela Monroe: Dr. Drucker says dopamine can be disrupted for a variety of reasons: a genetic predisposition, illicit drugs and even chemotherapy. These men have their own theories why they’re being harassed.

Bob Stansfield Bob Stansfield: I think that I was targeted because I’m gay.

That’s plausible.

Randall Ringger Randall Ringger: I reported people, someone for selling, what I thought they were selling drugs. And they were ...

That’s plausible.

Kevin Bond Kevin Bond: Nationwide this crime is committed about 60% against white women ages from 30 to 38. But in Palm Springs it’s almost 98% gay men.

Alan Drucker Dr. Alan Drucker: It does tend to occur more in populations of individuals who are marginalized or in some way segmentized in society.

Angela Monroe Angela Monroe: But these men disagree and say police and the psychiatric community need to take them seriously.

That’s a bad statement.
What we need is that the police and the
psychiatric
community
are not taken seriously anymore.

Kevin Bond Kevin Bond: When I worked for the government I heard a lot of people coming in saying: “I’m hearing voices through my tooth.” Now I look back and I think: “Are they like I am now and I just didn’t pay attention?”

That’s a good point.
Most people start to care
only when they realize
that they are a victim.

Angela Monroe Angela Monroe: For them the voices are a waking nightmare. And Kevin Bond told me they’re working on a book project about electronic harassment and pitching the idea to DreamWorks. Back to you.

 

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